[VIDEO] Teens Charged In Rye Hazing Appear in Court

Conservative NYer June 12, 2012 at 04:16 pm

With a plea of not guilty this will go to court and it's going to become a circus for all involved. For a town like Rye (which is a gorgeous place to reside) this is such a blemish. Such a shame for all that are involved.

Ross Revira June 12, 2012 at 04:27 pm

I agree the City of Rye is gorgeous and wealthy. This also shows criminality and "gangster" mentality does not only occur in poor and minority areas.

RyeDad June 12, 2012 at 04:43 pm

Why do these three kids even have to go to court? This is Rye.
I believe Rye's highest elected official (French) and Rye's Deputy Mayor (Jovanovich) have already set a precedent in Rye that any alleged wrongdoing, including by Rye's top elected official (French) and Rye's top appointed official (Pickup), should get referred to the City of Rye Board of Ethics.

Blazehz23 June 12, 2012 at 04:49 pm

Why is it because you live in Rye and you have money, you think your above the law?

Blazehz23 June 12, 2012 at 04:54 pm

I think for what these kids, did they should be prosecuted the fullest extent of the law.
They should be made examples out of. These animals should pay for what they did.

peekskillman June 12, 2012 at 04:55 pm

to RyeDad Sir truly you jest?? Place yourself in the position of the parents of the victims ie what if this was your child?? From what I have read, this incident rose far above traditional hazing, and did border on assault. Many times we have read where college hazings have gotten out of hand, and resulted in injuries or death amongst young people. It seems that these youth took things way out of hand, and in my opinion, should be prosecuted. Ethics is not the issue; morals, and what is right and wrong is the issue. As you state, (for whatever reason) this is Rye, Im sure the majority of the people in that City frown upon this type of behavior. Or was it your intent to dismiss thsi incident because it happened in Rye??

Ross Revira June 12, 2012 at 05:08 pm

Lack of ethics is immoral not criminal that is why there are elections.

A. F. June 12, 2012 at 07:03 pm

These kids should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. If you don't prosecute them now I am sure they are going to think they can get away with these cowardly things that they do. I guess it's not just Port Chester that has issues. I have seen Rye and Harrison on the news alot lately.

tedc June 12, 2012 at 07:14 pm

Regrettably “Peekskillman” there’s a deepening broadening pattern of corruption in Rye City government. And it’s resulted in a dedicated local Rye good government web site chock full of documents, videos and other evidence of self dealing and special preferences in amongst Rye’s current “political class.”
You might start with the story below here, and then go backwards in the monthly summaries. It’s UGLY. And so far, no visits yet from the Westchester County DA. But soon I suspect, very soon… http://www.lausdeo10580.com/lausdeo10580/2012/06/rye-2010-present-property-owners-variance-applications.html

mlloyd01 June 12, 2012 at 07:18 pm

You, Blazehz23, and peekskillman do realize that Rye Dad was being sarcastic, right? Take note of the introductory farcical question, followed by the unabashed statement of entitlement. That is followed by a dig at the politicians who got themselves off in a non-analogous situation. Put it all together and you get that the poster is a partisan hack who wanted to parlay this comment into an attack on the poliicians he mentioned in his posts. Clearly, the post was a gratuitous dig at the politicians rather than this event.

Conservative NYer June 12, 2012 at 07:27 pm

This has nothing to do with money. And NO not everyone in Rye is wealthy. Talk about stereotyping an entire community. Seems to me you have a problem with people who are successful, work hard to obtain a certain lifestyle for their family...which has NOTHING to do with the story at hand Sir.

Paul Tillotson June 12, 2012 at 07:54 pm

What has happened to that phrase which is one of the guardians of our freedom, namely, " Innocent until proven guilty "? Some Patch contributors seem to consider that arrest & conviction are identical states !

R S June 12, 2012 at 08:12 pm

Why the rush to judgement with these kids? We've only heard one side of the story that was been played out publicly in the press. If it turns out that none of the 8th graders were really physically hurt then this kids lives were ruined for nothing (they are juniors about to apply to colleges). Just like the news yesterday about the Secretary of Commerce and his "hit and run" where people were saying nasty things about him till it turned out he had a medical problem and then everyone felt bad. Yes what these kids did was stupid but we haven't heard the whole story yet. I have heard 2 very different accounts of what happened. Before you go trashing these kids lets remember that they are human beings and deserve their day in court. We've all made stupid mistakes in our lives and what would have happened to each of us if those mistakes caused us to loose our future's?

RyeDad June 12, 2012 at 08:25 pm

mlloyd:
Thank you for pointing that out although my only partisanship is for fair, open and equal government for all. tedc: You hit the nail on the head. Where does the DA stand on all of this corruption in Rye government?

Ross Revira June 12, 2012 at 09:16 pm

Conservative NYer, I have no problem with wealth. I like being wealthy myself. Not everyone in Rye is wealthy but the median family income in Rye in 2009 (middle of great recession) was $141,000. For all of NY it was $54,000. So I would say Rye is wealthy. What the comment is about is not all crimes occur in poor minority areas. Kids with privilege tend to commit crimes because of the privilege afforded them because their wealth or connections allows them to escape punishment. Wake up and see the world as it is not what you would like it to be.

anne-marie pensanti June 12, 2012 at 10:34 pm

Kids were paddled and kids were scared. Besides the three known victims that are constantly referred to, there are many other eighth graders that were paddle. They were paddled hard enough to have severe bruising on their backside and legs. There were many other eighth graders who are chased and not caught. There were many other juniors who were not caught. How do I know?? I have an eighth grader. I do not know what penalty should be legally given to the three juniors who are facing these misdemeanor and felony charges. I will leave that to the judicial system. What I do know is they are guilty of something. My focus is on preventing this from ever happening again. The fact that this 'tradition' has been going on for years or not going on for years is irrelevant either way. It has to be stopped. The only way to extinguish this criminal 'tradition' is to instate serious consequences from here on in. The Rye Schools must be required to take a specific and effective position. As far as the law, this 'children' are learning quickly that no one in this town is above the law. Freshman Friday is wrong. Our children should not go to school, attend school or leave school feeling fear of physical harm. Our children do, in fact, leave school on Freshman Friday feeling fear. If anyone thinks that is okay for our children to feel unnecessary terror due to a ridiculous 'traditon', then move. I don't want it to happen here.

Conservative NYer June 13, 2012 at 12:18 am

Since when is $141,000/yr. wealthy for a family of four or five especially in Westchester County, NY? That is "just getting by" without any extras. No one ever commented on this thread that there were no crimes to ever occur in wealthy communities. It seems like those who do not live in Rye seem to have a preconceived notion that this community is all made up of 1%'ers, and quite frankly it's boring, old, and rather redundant. Since when is it evil to be successful? But that is a discussion for another time and place, not now. Case in point of nothing ever happens in "wealthy and/or affluent towns: A bunch of Harrison students put a young man in the hospital a couple of months back. Bad kids will commit crimes because they think they can get away with and it has nothing to do with socioeconomics. These young men unfortunately passed the line and went into a "Lord of the Flies" mentality and unfortunately there are consequences for such actions. Whom I feel bad for are the parents of those children because I am sure they are mortified and extremely disappointed with their son's behavior and that of the young gentlemen who were beaten with 2x4's and logs, not paddles.

OlbieWanEgoNombie June 13, 2012 at 12:38 am

do people have nothing better to do. Keith Olbermann was shoved in a hole in middle school. Made him who he is today. Walk it off, move on

Ross Revira June 13, 2012 at 12:44 am

You "feel" bad for the "mortified" parents of the perpetrators but not about the parents of the victims? By using paddles does it make it less of a crime? Why are you bringing that heinous crime in Harrison into the conversation? Do you justify bad behavior with similar bad behavior? I have never equated wealth with being "evil". Take your defensive blinders off before you make a bigger fool of yourself more than you already have. As for the $141,000 median family income that means half of the families make more than that. You give wealthy and successful people a bad name.

Conservative NYer June 13, 2012 at 01:07 am

READ ROSS: I included BOTH families. Whom I feel bad for are the PARENTS of those children (not the actual boys who took part in the beatings) because I am sure they (the parents) are mortified and extremely disappointed with their son's behavior (for taking part in such a horrible tradition) and that of the "young gentlemen who were beaten with 2x4's and logs, not paddles". (THE VICTIMS) And nor am I justifying ANY behavior. Read between the lines. I stated crimes do happen in wealthy towns, case in point Harrison. You better reread what you said. Per your statement: "I agree the City of Rye is gorgeous and wealthy. This also shows criminality and "gangster" mentality does not only occur in poor and minority areas." No ONE EVER SAID "gangster mentality" does NOT occur in wealthy areas.. You interjected "wealthy" in the conversation, not I. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rye_(city),_New_YorkThe median income for a household in the city was $110,894, and the median income for a family was $133,231. So is that your opinion that more than half families make more than that? http://www.city-data.com/city/Rye-New-York.html and one more.... http://prudentialcentennial.com/city-of-rye-details-and-demographics/ FYI: Medium does not mean half makes more. Just a couple of millionaires would push that number up.) It should have NEVER happened.

Ross Revira June 13, 2012 at 02:02 am

You prove my point. Stop being defensive
By the way I have included what median means: In statistics and probability theory, median is described as the numerical value separating the higher half of a sample, a population, or a probability distribution, from the lower half. The median of a finite list of numbers can be found by arranging all the observations from lowest value to highest value and picking the middle one. If there is an even number of observations, then there is no single middle value; the median is then usually defined to be the mean of the two middle values..

Conservative NYer June 13, 2012 at 02:30 am

Who's being defensive that is how you are intrepreting it. I am just clarifying my statement about how horrible it is for BOTH FAMILIES since you did not bother to read my comment properly. I am sure the community and the familites involved will be able to heal and and move on with lots of love and prayers. Bruises heal but the mental and emotional impact will take some time.

JJ June 13, 2012 at 03:06 am

You're funny!!!

JJ June 13, 2012 at 03:10 am

The City of Rye is doing the right thing and bringing this to court.
NO EXCUSES ; NO MORE BULLYING PERIOD. And any of you dumb a$$es out there who think this is OK or these Bullies are misunderstood ; then let it happen to your child or grandchild and tell me what you think. They wouldn't be in court if there wasn't a case. The City of Rye will get past this......................

Mary Touri June 13, 2012 at 01:11 pm

It doesn't matter where they live, what their parents do, how much money they have or don't have or who they are. What matters is that children have been hurt & abused for a long time now. What matters is that the Rye Schools have been closing their eyes to this on going problem. It is a fact that children are afraid to go to school on "freshman Friday"...that speaks volume ! This needs to stop, right now. Those kids should be prosecuted for assault...because that is exactly what it was and will continue to be... if Rye does not put an end to this now. If their college future is at stake, it is no one;s fault but their own. This is a bad way to start out their adult life...thinking they can do what ever they want. They are bullies & should be stopped & punished ! In time they can get their life back on track & become compassionate & law abiding adults. Do the right thing City of Rye & protect all your towns children !

tscott565 June 14, 2012 at 12:05 am

The alleged "victims" were walking around fine the day of the incident and even bragging to their friends that they got paddled. The media is blowing their injuries way out proportion.

HEALtheHARBOR.com June 15, 2012 at 02:46 am

Maybe someone can explain to me how you charge teenagers as adults with Felonies charges as you close your eyes to a Mayor that has cheated the community out of thousands of dollars in school taxes?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6nWzVM99R8

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