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Rye Town Officials: Cost Saving Parks Plan Will Work

Town Supervisor Joe Carvin said the parks will be tended to by outside contractors just as well, if not better, than they were with three full time employees.

Following the termination of the Rye Town parks foreman and his two employees last month, a cost-saving measure, Rye Town residents have raised questions regarding the maintenance and care of the two parks the town oversees.

Rye Town and Crawford Parks are coveted outdoor spaces for residents in Rye, and those who frequent their pathways, lawns and sand, have raised some questions. Who will change the light bulbs, empty to trash, open the gate to the beach and make sure things are running safe and smoothly?

Rye Town officials say outside contractors that cost less than half than the previous full time employees cost will tend to the parks just as well, “if not better,” than they have been tended to in the past.

 “I think well be able to provide a better level of service at a lower cost,” said Rye Town Supervisor Joe Carvin.

However, following the firing of the three town parks employees (and four other Town employees) on Dec. 7, local resident and dog walker Deidra Curran has spoken out about disrepair at Rye Town Park, where she walks her dogs day and night.

Following Curran’s release of a YouTube video showing broken lights and signs, lights on in the locked bathrooms, and locked beach gate on Jan. 6, Rye city councilwoman Catherine Parker sent an email to Rye Town Parks Commission, and local press expressing concern that safety is at risk.

“You would do well to follow the example of former NYC Mayor, Rudy Guiliani, who understood that this kind of neglect becomes the tipping point for vandals to start to think no one cares about the property, and to then do further harm,” Parker wrote.

Carvin brushed off Parker’s comments as a political valence issue in an election year and added the Town is always responsive to the city. But he said he is “thrilled’ Curran brought those issues to the Town’s attention and all problems she reported are either already resolved or will be fixed by the end of this week. Curran confirmed the lights in the locked bathrooms were turned off the day after she sent her video.

Carvin explained that things may have been overlooked over the last two months because of Hurricane Sandy, the tree and debris clean up required after that, the snowstorm that followed and then the transition of terminating the three full time employees and moving to private contractor work.

“The major storm put a wrench in the works,” Carvin said.

“Lets take a look at this again in two months time and if the same kinds of complaints are occurring I would be enormously disappointed,” he said.*

Curren told Patch she will probably continue to report issues, but she wants to know what the plan is for making sure it is not the citizens’ job to look out for taxpayer funded parks.

Carvin explained that his secretary, Bishop Nowotnik is the head of facilities management now, and he needs to do more with less. The supervisor added that the town expects the Friends of Crawford Park and Rye Town Park community organizations to help out by reporting problems and keeping an eye on things too.

Laura Klein, the President of Friends of Crawford Park said she is concerned about the future of the park. “Year over year the Town has cut services to the park and our group has been adopting more and more responsibilities,” she said. “Our group has hired independent landscapers to maintain our portions of the park...we want to do more but are working with limited time and resources.” 

While community groups struggle to maintain their end of things, the Town claims its plan will be more cost effective and leave the parks in better shape than they were under the former parks foreman.

 

The New Parks Plan

During the off-season the town “passively” manages the park, Carvin said, a decision made by the Rye Town Parks Commission which consists of Carvin and the mayors from Rye Brook, Port Chester and Rye City, as well as Rye City Councilman Joe Sack and Commissioner for the Town of Rye Benedict Salanitro.

Greenway Property Services has handled all landscaping (lawn maintenance, snow removal, etc.) for the last year and a half and their contract has been extended. For more complicated repairs or issues, Nowotnik will bid the projects out. GPS now has a contract through March, 2013 to provide one worker who works half time Monday through Friday to empty trash at the parks and one handyman on Fridays to tend to general maintenance issues. The GPS Supervisor is responsible for reporting larger issues to Nowotnik.

“We have considered this for some time,” Carvin said. “We are always looking for ways to reduce costs because we don’t want taxes to go up, so we found a way of privatizing services.”

“The total cost for the two GPS guys is about $1200 a week,” Nowotnik said. The full time employees were costing the Town about $3800 a week, he said. The cost savings will be used on larger projects necessary at the parks.

Between Memorial Day and Labor Day, the park goes into full swing service. As in the past, the Town still intends to hire about 75 seasonal employees; about eight will work maintenance and the former foreman’s summer work will be split between seasonal managers in different sections of the park, Nowotnik said.

Carvin and Nowotnik point to Rye Town’s Park nearly 15 year history (under previous administrations) of losing from as much as $450,000 to $100,00 a year as an indication action had to be taken to cut costs there. 

Since the Carvin administration was elected, the Town Park went from operating at a $450,142 loss in 2007 to a $130,817 loss in 2011, according to the most recent available Town documents. The Town is still finalizing the most recent Town park budget.

“This is the final step in the efficiency chain,” Nowotnik said.

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What do you think of the new plan for Rye Town Parks? Tell us in the comments. 

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*Editor's Note: This article has been changed slightly from its original version to indicate Carvin did not speak directly with Curran. Following the original publication of this article Carvin clarified that he and town officials understand their management of the parks is under intense scrutiny and the town is responsible for complete oversight of the parks. 

Gunner Schorr January 10, 2013 at 06:21 PM
I WILL BELIEVE IT WHEN I SEE IT!!!
Deirdre Curran January 10, 2013 at 06:30 PM
I have never spoken to OR heard directly from Joe Carvin about this issue, so if this quote attributed to him is accurate he is a flat out Liar with a capital "L". Better not cancel the meeting on Tuesday due to another convenient lack of a Quorum, Joe. You can tell me to my face about the chat we *didn't* have.
Joe Carvin January 10, 2013 at 07:28 PM
Ms. Curran is absolutely correct. We never spoke. It is not clear to me why my comments were misunderstood but I can assure you after over 5 years in office one thing no one has ever accused me of is being a liar. So just to set the record straight you are absolutely correct we never spoke and any indication that we have spoken is wholly incorrect. I deeply regret that the journalist that called me misunderstood what was said. What I said was is that it is very clear to me and Town staff, that this personnel change is under intense scrutiny. My hope and expectation is that in 2 months time Ms. Curran and other users of the park will agree with me that the maintenance and the care of the park are the same if not better at that time. I also said that we are grateful to Ms. Curran and others like her that bring to our attention shortcomings in the park. My expectation is that each of the matters brought to our attenion by Ms. Curran have been resolved or are in the process of being resolved. I think it is important that Ms. Curran understand and know that myself and the RTP commission have worked hard to be extremely responsive to matters like those brought to our atention by Ms. Curran. I understand that Ms. Curran was responding to a misquote but I do think it is important that we all endeavour have a civil dialogue. That has been our practice in the past and I am hopeful we can maintain that practice going forward.
tedc January 10, 2013 at 07:29 PM
"“The major storm put a wrench in the works,” Carvin said. “I asked her (Curran) to keep an eye on the situation and in two months time if it’s not the same (as it was) or better I’ll be disappointed,” he said. Curren says she will continue to report issues, but she wants to know what the Town’s plan is for making sure it is not the citizens’ job to look out for taxpayer funded parks." You have got to be kidding. Carvin is known for his "synthetic reality" problems - and his tax problems - http://www.lausdeo10580.com/lausdeo10580/2012/06/new-york-state-issues-tax-warrants-to-gop-congressional-candidate-carvinover-90k-in-liens-placed-against-property-from-2006.html - and now his recent election blowout loss. But this kind of falsehood is just the definition of an unforced error. Shame on him.
TBV January 10, 2013 at 11:12 PM
Ms. Giegerich, Can you please clarify for your readers if you quoted Mr. Carvin correctly. He is saying you misunderstood him, or more directly, that you misquoted him. Your original story has not been edited. Can we take that to mean you stand by your story and that you understood, and printed, what was said to you?
Liz Giegerich January 11, 2013 at 02:05 PM
Thanks for the comments here. Mr. Carvin did not say he spoke to Deirdra Curran directly. I believe the misunderstanding comes from this quote: “I asked her (Curran) to keep an eye on the situation and in two months time if it’s not the same (as it was) or better, I’ll be disappointed,” he said. It is possible Carvin said "We" instead of "I" and I wrote the wrong word, but it was clear to me that he did not speak with her directly. I will clarify this in the article and I apologize for any error.
Deirdre Curran January 11, 2013 at 03:13 PM
Thank you for that clarification Liz. I also, at no time, "agreed" to any arrangement with the Rye Town Supervisor's Office, Joe Carvin, Biship Nowotnik or the Rye Town Parks Commission that I would be their eyes and ears and let them know when things needed to be done, which, if that quote is correct, is also implied. When I received an email from Bishop Nowotnik informing me that all the issues in the video were being immediately addressed, and finished the email by essentially putting the onus on ME to let them know what is going on at the park I said the following (and here's the transcript of the emails between myself and Bishop, thank you "cut and paste" option): "I'm not one to say "it's not my job" and I'm a civic minded citizen who was raised to consider it my duty to help out local authorities in my community by reporting to them when I see something that is a problem...but...it's NOT my job. While I will be happy to alert the office when I see something seriously out of whack, there still needs to be some sort of plan in place wherein that really shouldn't be necessary because the people in charge of the park will be on top of it themselves and will generally know about these issues as part of their routine. Because....that's THEIR job. Respectfully, Deirdre Curran Rye, NY
Deirdre Curran January 11, 2013 at 03:18 PM
I would also like to clarify another mis-statement in the article, which implies that I take clients' dogs there all the time. I almost NEVER take clients dogs to the park anymore because of all the controversy about dogs and all the blatant harassment that goes on during 'the season'. The only rules EVER enforced at that park are the ones relating to dogs. Occasionally when I have a client's dog that lives within walking distance of the park I will incorporate an on-leash walk THROUGH the park. I walk my OWN dog down there almost daily, and during the height of the busy season, to avoid the insanity, I spend more time walking her at Crawford Park; although I *do* walk her down at RTP later in the evenings on weekdays in the summer time. And I can tell you that a couple of those lights that were just fixed this week have been broken since LAST SUMMER. So please don't anyone try blaming this nonsense on the Hurricane of Oct. 29th. Any other remarks I have to make at this point will be done at the public meeting on Tuesday.
Deirdre Curran January 11, 2013 at 03:24 PM
But in light of the Editor's clarification and both her and Joe Carvin's agreement that it was a mis-quote giving the incorrect impression that he had contacted me and we had engaged in some sort of discussion about this issue, I will apologize to Mr. Carvin for any implication that he is a liar.
Joe Carvin January 11, 2013 at 04:28 PM
I want to thank Liz Giegerich for correcting and clarifyin the article. I also wanted to clarify that Ms. Curran is absolutely correct in pointing out that we as park administrators are fully responsible for making absolutely certain that the park is properly maintained. I believe Ms Curran was responding an earlier change and now the change is correct as stated because she was right to assert it is our job to maintain the park. I want to take this opportunity to thank Ms. Curran for her apology and state that I look forward to working with her and all park users to make every effort to deliver quality park services at as reasonable a cost as can be achieved. Lets take a look at this again in two months time and if the same kinds of complaints are occurring I would be enormously disappointed,” he said.*
tedc January 11, 2013 at 05:19 PM
Deirdre just as an aside I wouldn’t bother bringing up the RTP dogs-on-leash/off-leash laws anymore. Everyone in Rye knows the only thing that keeps the RTP lawns from being eaten to stubs and totally un-walkable due to filth (like my two Rye waterfront backyards) are the dogs. Dog walkers and dogs off leash in off-season are the only reason RTP has any grass anywhere for the season crowds when they return. And multiple dog owners have been on the front lines of free minor park repairs and maintenance (like trash bins) during this dark post- hurricane period. I see something good being quietly done by dog walkers every time I visit and you’re probably one the do-gooders. They (we) could care less about publicizing this but it’s certainly not worth hiding. Because before you know it, local politicians trying to walk their pet Canada geese at RTP will be calling for new even tougher dog restrictions. And that will likely come simultaneously with the reveal of all the dollars of capital expenditures and repairs the park has needed for the past 24 months but which Mr. Carvin needed kept quiet in committee so he could claim solid RTP fiscal success for campaign purposes. And this upcoming “investment” need is likely to be the biggest park turd of all time.

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